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Revision 17 . . (edit) January 11, 2004 11:17 pm USA Pacific Time by CPE-144-132-108-202.vic.bigpond.net.au
Revision 16 . . August 3, 2003 5:09 pm USA Pacific Time by Artsilva
Revision 15 . . August 3, 2003 4:49 pm USA Pacific Time by Artsilva
  

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Changed: 6c6
* When seeing real good practitioners acting as facilitators, and if we use Schon's criteria about "reflection on action", can we conclude something, eventually un-written until now, that caracheterizes the "spirited facilitation of OST", when compared to more trivial facilitation, done by-the-book or using hibrid-methods that eventually contradict the referred "spirit"?
* When seeing real good practitioners acting as facilitators, and if we use Schon's criteria about "reflection on action", can we conclude something, eventually un-written until now, that characterizes the "spirited facilitation of OST", when compared to more trivial facilitation, done by-the-book or using hybrid-methods that eventually contradict the referred "spirit"?

Changed: 10c10
* The good facilitator REALLY trustes the group, makes him/herself as INVISIBLE as he/she can, will not attempt to control the group (on the contrary!) thus alowing for the self-empowerment and self-organization of the group. He/she will never "facilitate too much", or try to "control" neither the activities, nor the learnings of the group.
* The good facilitator REALLY trusts the group, makes him/herself as INVISIBLE as he/she can, will not attempt to control the group (on the contrary!) thus alowing for the self-empowerment and self-organization of the group. He/she will never "facilitate too much", or try to "control" neither the activities, nor the learnings of the group.

Changed: 12c12
* the good facilitator fully accepts the rule that "less is more" and (1) will always try to discover if there is one less facilitation thing that doesn't need to be done; (2) will never add diferent techiques and concepts to a techique (OST) that works so well, except when this is absolutelly indispensable
* the good facilitator fully accepts the rule that "less is more" and (1) will always try to discover if there is one less facilitation thing that doesn't need to be done; (2) will never add diferent techiques and concepts to a techique (OST) that works so well, except when this is absolutely indispensable

Changed: 32c32
:I agree that good prctitionners of any mehodology always play with it and change things on the spot. Anyhow we can still understand what is a skilled, inspired variation, from what is a wrong or even malicious variation. If we are able to understand what is it that makes a variation to be compatible with the "spirit" of it and another one to violate that spirit, I think we would make some progress in understanding what is and what is not OST. Concerning another point I accept that some people may simoultaneously act as facilitators and participants. But I would say that for the people that do that well, its because they are playing two roles, using two different hats. For me that would be difficult and I would prefer to accept a facilitator (as well as a mediator) role only when I am not envolved in the outcame. --ArturSilva (Aug 3)
:I agree that good practitioners of any mehodology always play with it and change things on the spot. Anyhow we can still understand what is a skilled, inspired variation, from what is a wrong or even malicious variation. If we are able to understand what is it that makes a variation to be compatible with the "spirit" of it and another one to violate that spirit, I think we would make some progress in understanding what is and what is not OST. Concerning another point I accept that some people may simultaneously act as facilitators and participants. But I would say that for the people that do that well, its because they are playing two roles, using two different hats. For me that would be difficult and I would prefer to accept a facilitator (as well as a mediator) role only when I am not involved in the outcame. --ArturSilva (Aug 3)

Changed: 54c54
:: What a marvelous story, Julie. And you are right, I was mainly thinking about OST as a method for use by external consultants/facilitators. Thanks for reminding me that "Open Space" is greater than OST and needs a great sensibility. I have used an aproach similar to yours in an University context with students, but I will speak about that when I came back. Now, what I most need is to have 15 days of Open Space just for myself - and let my mind take a nap - or many - to be prepared for the next round... Maybe by then I will have also a story on how I opens the space for my dog. Not jocking - ArturSilva
:: What a marvelous story, Julie. And you are right, I was mainly thinking about OST as a method for use by external consultants/facilitators. Thanks for reminding me that "Open Space" is greater than OST and needs a great sensibility. I have used an approach similar to yours in an University context with students, but I will speak about that when I came back. Now, what I most need is to have 15 days of Open Space just for myself - and let my mind take a nap - or many - to be prepared for the next round... Maybe by then I will have also a story on how I open the space for my dog. Not joking. But before I am prepared for "dog-ing", let me add a small note on the SpiritofOSInParenting - ArturSilva

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